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Walker Percy Interviews Walker Percy
The deceased Southern writer answers all the questions he was never asked
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According to Wikipedia, “Walker Percy (May 28, 1916 – May 10, 1990) was an American Southern author whose interests included philosophy and semiotics.” We’re not quite sure what semiotics is, but we’re convinced Walker Percy was far more than this.
An agnostic-turned-Catholic and existentialist, he published his first novel,
The Moviegoer
(Knopf), in 1961. His most popular work, however, was a non-fiction social satire piece titled,
Lost in the Cosmos: The Last Self-Help Book
(Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 1983). In it, he wrote,
“The churches are disappointing, even for most believers. If Christ brings us new life, it is all the more remarkable that the church, the bearer of this good news, should be among the most dispirited institutions of the age. The alternatives to the institutional churches are even more grossly disappointing, from TV evangelists with their blown-dry hairdos to California cults led by prosperous gurus ignored in India but embraced in La Jolla.”
[READ: Micah Mattix's
First Things
essay, "Whither Walker Percy?"]
Percy was one of the most notable Southern writers of his lifetime (along with Flannery O’Connor, of course) who was able to speak about faith without actually speaking about faith. The following is an interview from “Questions They Never Asked Me,” which appears in
Conversations with Walker Percy
:
Q: What kind of Catholic are you?
A. Bad.
Q: No. I mean are you liberal or conservative?
A: I no longer know what those words mean.
Q: Are you a dogmatic Catholic or an open-minded Catholic?
A: I don’t know what that means, either. Do you mean do I believe the dogma that the Catholic Church proposes for belief?
Q: Yes.
A: Yes.
Q: How is such a belief possible in this day and age?
A: What else is there?
Q: What do you mean, what else is there? There is humanism, atheism, agnosticism, Marxism, behaviorism, materialism, Buddhism, Muhammadanism, Sufism, astrology, occultism, theosophy.
A: That’s what I mean.
Q: To say nothing of Judaism and Protestantism.
A: Well, I would include them along with the Catholic Church in the whole peculiar Jewish-Christian thing.
Q: I don’t understand. Would you exclude, for example, scientific humanism as a rational and honorable alternative?
A: Yes.
Q: Why?
A: It’s not good enough.
Q: Why not?
A: This life is too much trouble, far too strange, to arrive at the end of it and then to be asked what you make of it and have to answer “Scientific humanism.” That won’t do. A poor show. Life is a mystery, love is a delight. Therefore I take it as axiomatic that one should settle for nothing less than the infinite mystery and the infinite delight, i.e., God. In fact I demand it. I refuse to settle for anything less. I don’t see why anyone should settle for less than Jacob, who actually grabbed aholt of God and would not let go until God identified himself and blessed him.
Q: Grabbed
aholt
?
A: A Louisiana expression.
Q: But isn’t the Catholic Church in a mess these days, badly split, its liturgy barbarized, vocations declining?
A: Sure. That’s a sign of its divine origins, that it survives these periodic disasters.
Q: You don’t act or talk like a Christian. Aren’t they supposed to love one another and do good works?
A: Yes.
Q: You don’t seem to have much use for your fellowman or do many good works.
A: That’s true. I haven’t done a good work in years.
Q: In fact, if I may be frank, you strike me as being rather negative in your attitude, cold-blooded, aloof, derisive, self-indulgent, more fond of the beautiful things of this world than of God.
A: That’s true.
Q: You even seem to take certain satisfaction in the disasters of the twentieth-century and to savor the imminence of world catastrophe rather than world peace, which all religions seek.
A: That’s true.
Q: You don’t seem to have much use for your fellow Christians, to say nothing of Ku Kluxers, ACLU’ers, northerners, southerners, fem-libbers, anti-fem-libbers, homosexuals, anti-homosexuals, Republicans, Democrats, hippies, anti-hippies, senior citizens.
A: That’s true – though taken as individuals they turn out to be more or less like oneself, i.e., sinners, and we get along fine.
Q: Even Ku Kluxers?
A: Sure.
Q: How do you account for your belief?
A: I can only account for it as a gift from God.
Q: Why would God make you such a gift when there are others who seem more deserving, that is, serve their fellowman?
A: I don’t know. God does strange things. For example, he picked as one of his saints a fellow in northern Syria, a local nut, who stood on top of a pole for thirty-seven years.
Q: We are not talking about saints.
A: That’s true.
Q: We are talking about what you call a gift.
A: You want me to explain it? How would I know? The only answer I can give is that I asked for it, in fact demanded it. I took it as an intolerable state of affairs to have found myself in this life and in this age, which is a disaster by any calculation, without demanding a gift commensurate with the offense. So I demanded it. No doubt other people feel differently.
Q: But shouldn’t faith bear some relation to the truth, facts?
A: Yes. That’s what attracted me, Christianity’s rather insolent claim to be true, with the implication that other religions are more or less false.
Q: You believe that?
A: Of course.
Q: I see. Moving right along now –
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Have you read any of Walker Percy's works, and if so, how did they effect you? What do you think of this curious interview?
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Editor's Note: The artwork above is a portrait of Walker Percy by Charles Moser.
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Jeanette
I love Walker Percy and I hadn't ever seen this so thanks for posting it. Its so deep (you never figure out what he is trying to do) that it kind of hurts your head.
mark in tx
Not easy to decipher though. I loved Lost in the Cosmos and the perspective it gives on "self help." He smashed the prevalent myth that Christians lack creativity.
Quentin Todd
The conversation of question and answer is a brilliant piece because I identify with what Walker Percy is saying. Now, I have never heard of the man, and yet the familiarity with this Q+A is stark and brutal. The 'isms' he criticizes, the all-this-nonsensal-state of human affairs is refreshing. I believe he has a key point, and I'm going to read more of his work, that we claim this that and the other thing about "being Christian" but don't ask ourselves how we reconcile our belief with our beliefs, especially when most of our lives truly don't make much sense and when we look at beauty in nature we are awed by the fact that God invited us into his kingdom. This gift is way too mind-blogging (yes blogging) because we are still writing about it in our heads. Mind boggling is where where finally realize that it's way too big to fathom. To me this is the true nature of conversion for many of us. WE will never fully understand this reality until we let go of it. Percy Walker, by the writing above indicates he did.
Marilyn Yocum
Loved this: "taken as individuals they turn out to be more or less like oneself, i.e., sinners, and we get along fine."
Thanks for introducing me to this writer!
Chris Slack
Wow. Clearly I'm missing something. I thought this was jibberish. I'm pretty sure I know now why I've never heard of this guy.
Stuart
There is a great difference between an alienated commuter riding a train and this same commuter reading a book about an alienated commuter riding a train...The nonreading commuter exists in true alienation, which is unspeakable; the reading commuter rejoices in the speakability of his alienation and in the new triple alliance of himself, the alienated character, and the author. His mood is affirmatory and glad: Yes! that is how it is!--which is an aesthetic reversal of alienation. -Walker Percy
I consider Walker Percy a father figure of sorts. As a fellow abstracted, listless Southerner, reading his novels helped me make sense of this journey. I'd encourage you to read his work.
Jim Stewart
This is way after the fact, I think, but I believe Mr. Percy was baiting the interviewer. He was having his own fun at the interviewer's expense. It certainly wouldn't be the first time.
Bruce Edwards
To Chris Slack: this is Percy being playful, self-reflective, and satirizing his own public image. This essay is sort of presented by Q our of context--a disservice to him and readers who are not acquainted with him.
He was was well known in his time, a worthy Christian apologist for his existentialist crowd, and well worthy of your spending some time with his work and resisting your dismissiveness.
lickona
Dear Q, you say that Lost in the Cosmos was Percy's most popular book. Do you have a reference for that claim? I'm writing a thing about him, and I would really appreciate it if you could help me out. Thanks much!
Gordon Sparks
I'm frighteningly familiar with the human-sopped revelatory power of Percy's cognizance of our mess. Knee-deep sludge becomes still waters at the touch of his insight. We thought it was garbage. It's grace! Water becomes wine.
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